Shy Is a Character Defect — It Means I’m Thinking Way Too Much About What You Think of Me — Kista C. and Amy

About This Speaker Tape

This recording features two speakers at what appears to be a women-heavy AA meeting. Amy opens with a compact but honest share about her seven years of sobriety after being around since 1999. She describes the relentless cycle of promising not to drink and ending up at the liquor store anyway, the dangerous behavior like hit-and-runs while driving drunk, and the moment she looked in the mirror and saw hollow, vacant eyes staring back. After multiple relapses driven by festering resentments, her sponsor Gwen in San Diego delivered the line that finally stuck: "This relapsing is pathetic. You're not pathetic, but this relapsing is pathetic." Amy shares how Steps Three and Eleven now anchor her daily life, taking the pressure off by turning everything over to a higher power she has built over fourteen years.

Kista, the main speaker, tells a story that begins before birth — her mother was nineteen, fresh off probation for killing her first husband, and her father was married to someone else. She grew up in chaos, moving thirty-five times by age twenty-one, a shy artist who finally found structure living with her father until alcohol derailed everything at fourteen. She dropped every club, bounced through three high schools, then flourished at art school while her drinking flourished alongside it. She became a dive-bar regular and a happy-hour closer who never once questioned why she was always the last one standing or why she was throwing up in office garbage cans.

The story takes a devastating turn in Texas when a late-night car accident killed two of her closest friends, Denise and Terry, and left Kista with a closed head injury, blood clot, lost hearing, and shattered memory. She spent a year unable to form sentences, cared for by her sister. That forced year of not drinking was her first since age fourteen — and she was a textbook dry drunk without knowing it. She started drinking again despite seizure warnings, landed in California with a man she met in a bar, and spiraled until a therapist spent six months quietly asking "Were you drinking when that happened?" before the light bulb finally went off.

Kista got sober in October 1997 and has sixteen years at the time of this recording. She shares how the program dismantled her crippling shyness — which she reframes as a character defect rooted in bondage of self — through five years of book study, taking commitments, and sitting close to stay engaged. Ten years into sobriety, a sober woman talked her into walking thirty minutes a day, which snowballed into marathon training and eventually hundred-mile ultramarathons, stunning her family back East. She closes with a message to newcomers: just do what people suggest, show up, and watch a beautiful journey unfold.

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• 0:00 Amy shares her story — cycle of promising to quit and ending up at the liquor store every night
• 3:30 Amy describes looking in the mirror and not recognizing herself — hollow, vacant eyes
• 6:00 Amy on relapse pattern: resentments pile up until a switch flips and she stops caring about consequences
• 8:00 Sponsor Gwen's breakthrough line: 'This relapsing is pathetic — you're not pathetic, but this is pathetic'
• 11:00 Kista begins — born to a 19-year-old mother fresh off probation for killing her first husband
• 16:00 Drinking takes hold at 14 under the boardwalk; drops every club, bounces through three high schools
• 22:00 Art school and corporate career — throwing up in office garbage cans, coworkers covering for each other
• 28:00 Fatal car accident in Dallas — vehicle flips, two friends killed, Kista suffers closed head injury and year-long recovery
• 37:00 Therapist spends six months asking 'Were you drinking when that happened?' before the light bulb goes off
• 45:00 Ten years sober, a woman convinces Kista to walk 30 minutes a day — leads to ultramarathons and hundred-milers