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Ohio AA Edward Andy (sober Oct-38 on some pioneer lists) gives a truly batsh*t crazy share. He’s screaming, most of the time.
00:40 Dedicated meeting to Alex Markonen (sp?)
1:10 Recounts Oct 2 1982 meeting to Lois Wilson
3:10 Bill Wilson didn’t want Alex M. sponsored in AA #87, too young; AA Museum; Alex Died Sober after 43yrs
5:30 Marvels of Ravenna in 1929?
6:15 First drink in 1912: bucket of beer
7:30 Drinking as a child (pilsner); Story about Kurtz; crazy rambling
16:00 Realized he was an alcoholic in 1922 … 3rd and 4th Stages of Alcoholism (screaming)
32:00 Bootlegger at 612 Highland Av(?)
33:20 Smitty the Well-Dressed Man (Dr. Smith) to Mr. Johnson (alias) crazy story.
38:50 “What could we do for alcoholics?”
38:40 Helping a man get his pension check
40:30 (1932) Dr. Bob 7 page letter of predictions, “in 2014 millions of people will die from bombs”
42:00 Dr. Bob gets letter from Dr. Michael Miller to experiment on alcoholics in Cleveland (Sept 1930).
45:45 Note in bottle “Help Us God to Find a Solution for Alcoholics” tossed into concrete.
46:00 Claims he led first meetg in Akron 1940
47:45 Claims Mark Hanna was behind this Dr. Miller effort, experimentation. Dr. Bob located Oxford Group and Bill Wilson and completed Miller Project.
49:00 {It just gets crazier and crazier …} Started program in 1942, getting judges to release alcoholics to AA
Alex F. Marcona (1905-1/30/1983) of 850 Spruce in Ravenna OH was 35yo in Census 1940. He is not listed as a Pioneer and wasnt “AA #87”. If Ed Andy’s claim Alex M. died sober w/ 43yrs is correct, he likely got sober after June 1940 (he is absent from “Akron 220 List” dated to April/May 1940.)
In 1940, he was not a YP; Alex had a small family and was middle-aged, tho perhaps ‘young-ish’ for Akron AA back then. It is baffling why Bill Wilson should oppose his membership in 1940 (if true).
Side-note, unrelated to talk:
The first actual YP that I was able to find is a yet-unidentified 22yo in Baltimore MD in 1940. It is not clear if he ALSO is the “recent Johns Hopkins graduate” mentioned in Azrael’s article of the period. He may also be “first sober graduate”, if so.
Baltimore has a number of other “AA Firsts” not recorded in AA books or well-known by history buffs. And the Big Book was almost certainly written (at least, in part) at Johns Hopkins Wm. Welch Library, by grantees/ghostwriters of the Rockefeller Foundation in 1938.