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The tape labeled 15th. ICYPAA Conv. Los Angeles 1977-02-16 is not correctly identified. the 15th ICYPAA took place in Cleveland in 1972, and the 1977 ICYPAA took place in Houston. To the best of my knowledge Chuck C has never spoken at an ICYPAA. (I am the former Archivist for ICYPAA and have been attending the conference since 1976.)